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Episode 02 - I Am Canadian Part 1 -
with Dr. Rehman Abdulrehman

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“[We are never fully pulled] into the circle. [We’re allowed] a closer view of the warm fire everybody is sitting around. But never quite in the inner circle.”

Hear Dr. Rehman Abdulrehman’s personal stories of discrimination and racism, and the struggle for immigrants to be viewed as Canadian.

In this episode

Find out about:

  • [00:06:34] Explaining to a White person why you want your child to have a better life

  • [00:10:21] The greatest privilege Dr. Abdulrehman wants for his child

  • [00:11:39] Discrimination from a teacher

  • [00:14:58] Racism in Canada today (2020)

  • [00:19:59] The untenable choice: freedom to be yourself, or freedom from conflict

  • [00:21:48] The mythology of a multicultural Canada

Bonus – a piece of Canadian trivia:  What’s the provincial flower of Manitoba? If you didn’t know, now you’ll know!

Guest bio and references:

Dr. Rehman Abdulrehman is a consulting and clinical psychologist and public speaker, with a special focus on diversity and inclusion. He combines his significant clinical skills with his lived experience as both a person of color and an immigrant, to help people better understand microaggressions, privilege, representation, and culture.

Dr. Abdulrehman has consulted with such organizations as the CBC, the Mastercard Foundation, and the RCMP, and was a speaker at the Winnipeg TedX Talks. He currently lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba, where he runs a psychology clinic, is an Assistant Professor at the University of Manitoba, and is a visiting professor at two universities in Tanzania.

Dr. Abdulrehman is also a subject matter expert on unconscious bias for Google and YouTube. And if all that wasn’t enough, in his “spare time” he co-hosts a podcast about diversity and inclusion called Different People.

You can find Dr. Abdulrehman on:

Winnipeg TedxTalk on YouTube

Different People Podcast


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Music Credits for this Episode

Intro and Interlude:

What Words Can't Describe, by Vlad Gluschenko

License: CC BY 3.0:


Beautiful Modern Rock Pop Guitar All Goodness Background Music, by Royalty Free Music

License: CC BY-NC-ND 3.0:

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